LCR 2012 National - lets discuss

Post by **Andy M** » Wed 22nd Jun 2011 12:13 pm

Hi Keith,
Yes go for it, shall I get you sworn in for events organiser of the LCR Essex region?
You can be our global rep if you would prefer but that sometimes means excursions outside of E***X, could you cope?

Andy

Post by **Keith Halstead** » Wed 22nd Jun 2011 3:35 pm

Andy M wrote:Hi Keith,
Yes go for it, shall I get you sworn in for events organiser of the LCR Essex region?
You can be our global rep if you would prefer but that sometimes means excursions outside of E***X, could you cope?
Andy

Go for it Andy - a position I have held informally (Essex only) for 10 years...

I did vote for moving the National round the country to enable a different set of participants when we put up the poll a while ago, Is it worth reconsidering?

Post by **Andy M** » Thu 23rd Jun 2011 9:31 pm

Hi Keith,
Anything is worth considering if it generates interest and then participation!

The only problem I can see (and believe me I personally won't mind as I will be driving to wherever the National is providing I have a car) is this, if we done say County to County IE Essex next year and Cumbria the next then it could take a number of years to come round to your county!
Obviously you would nip over the border to the next closest county to you but you can see there could be a few voices that would be annoyed!

Your thoughts!

Andy M

Post by **Keith Halstead** » Fri 24th Jun 2011 8:17 am

Andy M wrote:Hi Keith,
Anything is worth considering if it generates interest and then participation!

The only problem I can see (and believe me I personally won't mind as I will be driving to wherever the National is providing I have a car) is this, if we done say County to County IE Essex next year and Cumbria the next then it could take a number of years to come round to your county!
Obviously you would nip over the border to the next closest county to you but you can see there could be a few voices that would be annoyed!

Your thoughts!

Andy M

I think we probably hit rock bottom this year in terms of numbers, so the only way is up (not Essex..) as they say.

The options are :-

- Cancel it altogether, do nothing or try something else.....

I favour the latter & could try a radius approach, say 50 miles, so we can move it about. A range of central locations could be suggested by members & the 'catchment' areas would then be drawn at random to decide the rotation for forthcoming years.

Anyone else any ideas?

Simon G · Post by **Simon G** » Fri 24th Jun 2011 4:35 pm

I have suggested in the past that it might be worthwhile contacting other major Ford clubs with a view to holding a joint national day. The AVO club springs to mind. They have their National Day at Stanford Hall and I believe it's been held there for a number of years. It's a nice venue in a fairly central location so in terms of accessibility it would be fair to all members. Having our cars there would generate more interest for their members and vice versa. We could make a contribution towards the hire of the venue as well. Would it be something worth thinking about?

Post by **Andy M** » Fri 24th Jun 2011 7:40 pm

Hi Simon,

Just as an aside all the Ford clubs were sent an invite to the National.
Ask how many attended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diddly Squat

Andy M

Simon G · Post by **Simon G** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 8:12 am

Hi Andy

Due to an unforseen problem I couldn't attend this year's National Rally so I can't comment on the venue. I understand numbers were down but I am sure the weather would have played a part in this. I think it is very important for the club to find a permanent solution to where we hold the National Day as it seems to be a recurring issue every year. I think we need to look at one of two options:

1. We decide on a permanent central location (suggestions anyone?)

2. I like Keith's idea of holding the event on a regional basis. We wouldn't need a huge number of regions, just North, South, East and West would do. I could think of an ideal location in the East, perhaps we could go with Gary P's suggestion of Tatton Park for the North and maybe Battlesbridge for the South. That would just leave the West but I am sure other members could come up with a suitable venue.

I realise that by holding events on a regional basis you are never going to get massive attendance levels as the distances would probably be too great. By doing it this way however, the club could show that it takes account of the needs of the entire membership.

Perhaps this is something that we could include on the agenda at this year's AGM?

Simon

Post by **Rick** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:12 am

Keith & Simon. You both have some great ideas for moving the National Day forward. But these ideas need someone to put them in to practice. We still do not have a Events Secretary after making appeals for someone to step forward. I for one will not organise another National Day. So unless someone comes forward to take up the position of Events Secretary none of your great suggestions are likely to see the light of day.

Post by **Steve 155C** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:20 am

Simon G wrote:I have suggested in the past that it might be worthwhile contacting other major Ford clubs with a view to holding a joint national day. The AVO club springs to mind. They have their National Day at Stanford Hall and I believe it's been held there for a number of years. It's a nice venue in a fairly central location so in terms of accessibility it would be fair to all members. Having our cars there would generate more interest for their members and vice versa. We could make a contribution towards the hire of the venue as well. Would it be something worth thinking about?

I quite like the idea of having the LCR National at the AVO day. Their events organiser comes on here (I think he's called Mexico Tim) and they do invite other clubs to attend , so this should be fairly easy to get organised.

Post by **Pete G** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:23 am

Sorry Simon but I've got to be 'Mr Picky' here.

Geographically speaking Manchester is North Midlands and Tatton Park in Knutsford is south of Manchester! As an ex-pat Geordie I would not have contemplated the 170 mile drive from Tyneside to Tatton Park!! Oh, and not forgetting that Tyneside is still 65 miles south of the border!

So where are the areas of high concentrations of members and how far are most people willing to travel to get to the venue?

I haven't been to a national day yet,- but I might!

Simon G · Post by **Simon G** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:30 am

Rick

I am not sure I would want the position of National Events Secretary as I just don't have the time to make such a commitment. However, I am happy to try to keep supporting events in the Eastern region. It's been difficult trying to arrange anything this year as my restoration project has taken up all my time. However, if the club can agree that holding the National Day on a regional basis is the way forward and others are willing to nominate themselves to fill posts in the southern and western regions, I would be willing to arrange a National Day in the Eastern region next year. How does that sound?

Simon

Simon G · Post by **Simon G** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:41 am

Pete

I can understand where you are coming from but I don't think it would be right to hold a National Day in the area where there are the highest concentrations of members as we would not be making it fair to the entire membership.

I know there are members who don't like travelling long distances in their cars but I can remember years ago when we used to hold the National Day at Longleat. We always had high attendance levels and many members would travel very long distances to take part. It was about a 500 mile round trip from Norwich. Once my car is back on the road I would be prepared to take it to shows up North if it meant supporting a member who had taken the time to organise a club event.

Simon

Post by **Andy M** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 10:57 am

Hi All,
Interesting with the 4 regions, not being flippant but shall we have a fallow year in year 5 and take it abroad???
Andy M

Post by **H Cortina** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 11:04 am

Simon G wrote:I have suggested in the past that it might be worthwhile contacting other major Ford clubs with a view to holding a joint national day. The AVO club springs to mind. They have their National Day at Stanford Hall and I believe it's been held there for a number of years. It's a nice venue in a fairly central location so in terms of accessibility it would be fair to all members. Having our cars there would generate more interest for their members and vice versa. We could make a contribution towards the hire of the venue as well. Would it be something worth thinking about?

Sound idea to me.

Piggy backing with other clubs or events is the only way forward in my personal opinion. It certainly adds interest to the day to talk to other car enthusiasts and view other cars apart from Cortina's.

Post by **Pete G** » Sun 26th Jun 2011 11:42 am

Are there any other All Ford shows around the country other than Battlesbridge that could be used?