Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
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Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
Hi, Does anybody have length dimensions for Lotus Cortina MK1 two-piece propshafts? I'm trying to find out whether or not they were made in different lengths for A frame and leaf sprung cars.
The A frame Lotus Cortina MK1s have a slightly longer wheelbase than conventional leaf sprung 'Ford' Cortina MK1s (by about 0.4" (10 mm) according to the Ford Dearborn development report), but; were the later leaf sprung Lotus Cortina MK1s designed to have the same wheelbase as the A frame cars (e.g. by using a more rearward location for the axle locating pins)? If so, they would probably have used the same propshaft lengths. Or, did they use the same wheelbase as the conventional 'Ford' Cortina MK1s? If so, they might have been made with reduced length on the second section (unless the sliding joint was deemed sufficient allow for the difference).
I've attached a pdf showing dimensions I've taken from a two piece propshaft, but I don't know if it was originally from an A frame of leaf spuing car (or indeed, if those cars have the same, or different, wheelbases). For reference, I want to fit this propshaft to a leaf sprung estate car, but it seems a bit too long, and wondered if it was from an A frame car, or, if I need a pair of genuine Lotus Cortina leaf springs which might locate the axle further rearward.
Many thanks for any new measurements!
The A frame Lotus Cortina MK1s have a slightly longer wheelbase than conventional leaf sprung 'Ford' Cortina MK1s (by about 0.4" (10 mm) according to the Ford Dearborn development report), but; were the later leaf sprung Lotus Cortina MK1s designed to have the same wheelbase as the A frame cars (e.g. by using a more rearward location for the axle locating pins)? If so, they would probably have used the same propshaft lengths. Or, did they use the same wheelbase as the conventional 'Ford' Cortina MK1s? If so, they might have been made with reduced length on the second section (unless the sliding joint was deemed sufficient allow for the difference).
I've attached a pdf showing dimensions I've taken from a two piece propshaft, but I don't know if it was originally from an A frame of leaf spuing car (or indeed, if those cars have the same, or different, wheelbases). For reference, I want to fit this propshaft to a leaf sprung estate car, but it seems a bit too long, and wondered if it was from an A frame car, or, if I need a pair of genuine Lotus Cortina leaf springs which might locate the axle further rearward.
Many thanks for any new measurements!
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
The later mk1's use the same axle anti-tramp bars as the GT with the same axle/chassis location, so I would expect the later cars have the same wheel base as standard.
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
A Frame prop shafts are slightly longer. Both front and rear sections are the same diameter. On the photo you have shown the rear section looks larger diameter which would probably be from a series 1 MK2
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If you look at pictures of the sides of an A frame car and a leaf sprung car the position of the rear wheel of the A frame car is further back in the wheel arch than the leaf srung one.
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In the very first publication from the LCR (early 1981 and pre-dating Quarter Bumper), there was an extremely good article entitled "Split-Prop Overhaul".
Included in this article was the following information:
Part No. 28D/050: Feb.63 - July 64: One piece prop with "A" bracket. Wheelbase 249.9 cms.
Part No. 28D/094: July 64 - May 65: Split prop with "A" bracket. Wheelbase 249.9cms.
Part No. A28D/094: May 65 onwards: Split prop with leaf spring. Wheelbase 248.29cms.
Standard cortina wheelbase 248.92cms.
Perhaps this will help with the queries.
Included in this article was the following information:
Part No. 28D/050: Feb.63 - July 64: One piece prop with "A" bracket. Wheelbase 249.9 cms.
Part No. 28D/094: July 64 - May 65: Split prop with "A" bracket. Wheelbase 249.9cms.
Part No. A28D/094: May 65 onwards: Split prop with leaf spring. Wheelbase 248.29cms.
Standard cortina wheelbase 248.92cms.
Perhaps this will help with the queries.
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
Hi All,
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
Is it possible to purchase a copy of the split propshaft article from the club archives?
From the information provided above, it seems as though the leaf spring split prop might be shorter (seems a bit too much for the sliding joint to account for, on top of plunge from axle movement in bump or droop. Does anyone have a MK1 split propshaft they could measure to help confirm (A frame of leaf sprung)?
For reference, my front and rear sections have an OD of approx. 51 mm (2 ") and 70 mm (2 3/4 ")respectively. Does that help identify it as A frame or leaf spring type? Or from a MK2? I've been told that the MK2 series one is the same as the leaf sprung MK1, and that the MK2 series 2 is different again to account for the longer single rail gearbox (and different centre bearing mounting arrangement). Bit is that correct?
Also, does anyone have a length measurement for: The front spring eye to axle saddle locating pin, taken from an original main leaf on a MK1 Lotus Cortina?
Many thanks.
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
Is it possible to purchase a copy of the split propshaft article from the club archives?
From the information provided above, it seems as though the leaf spring split prop might be shorter (seems a bit too much for the sliding joint to account for, on top of plunge from axle movement in bump or droop. Does anyone have a MK1 split propshaft they could measure to help confirm (A frame of leaf sprung)?
For reference, my front and rear sections have an OD of approx. 51 mm (2 ") and 70 mm (2 3/4 ")respectively. Does that help identify it as A frame or leaf spring type? Or from a MK2? I've been told that the MK2 series one is the same as the leaf sprung MK1, and that the MK2 series 2 is different again to account for the longer single rail gearbox (and different centre bearing mounting arrangement). Bit is that correct?
Also, does anyone have a length measurement for: The front spring eye to axle saddle locating pin, taken from an original main leaf on a MK1 Lotus Cortina?
Many thanks.
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
Hi Steve, I joined prior to posting.
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
Hi All, I'm still searching for propshaft length measurements, in particular, the length of the rear section of a two-piece prop (coil or leaf sprung). Is anyone able to get under their car with a tape measure? Many thanks.
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Re: Lotus Cortina MK1 Propshafts
Hi Keith, Yes, that's' really helpful, many thanks. I also get 26 3/4 " and 31 " from the the diff end yoke flange to the end of the main tube, and to the centre yoke flange, respectively (with the splined joint fully compressed). Is this from an A frame / coil sprung car?
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I can't remember now as it wa ages ago.Superestate wrote: ↑Sun 1st Jan 2023 7:42 pm Hi Keith, Yes, that's' really helpful, many thanks. I also get 26 3/4 " and 31 " from the the diff end yoke flange to the end of the main tube, and to the centre yoke flange, respectively (with the splined joint fully compressed). Is this from an A frame / coil sprung car?